{"id":4672,"date":"2014-02-08T21:51:13","date_gmt":"2014-02-08T19:51:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wolfwetzel.wordpress.com\/?p=4672"},"modified":"2014-02-08T21:51:13","modified_gmt":"2014-02-08T19:51:13","slug":"anti-fascist-politics-in-discussion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wolfwetzel.de\/index.php\/2014\/02\/08\/anti-fascist-politics-in-discussion\/","title":{"rendered":"Anti-fascist politics in discussion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><i>Am 30. April 2013 fand am Vorabend eines angek\u00fcndigten neonazistischen Aufmarsches in Frankfurt eine Diskussion \u00fcber die historische und aktuellen Bedeutung des Antifaschismus statt.<\/i><\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/wolfwetzel.files.wordpress.com\/2014\/02\/antifa-berlin-20111.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-4673\" alt=\"Antifa-Berlin-20111\" src=\"http:\/\/wolfwetzel.files.wordpress.com\/2014\/02\/antifa-berlin-20111.jpg?w=300&#038;resize=300%2C173\" width=\"300\" height=\"173\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wolfwetzel.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/antifa-berlin-20111.jpg?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wolfwetzel.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/antifa-berlin-20111.jpg?resize=300%2C173&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/wolfwetzel.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/antifa-berlin-20111.jpg?resize=768%2C444&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<strong><i>Im Vorfeld wurde diese Diskussion als demobilisierend bezeichnet, weil ein \u203aantideutscher\u2039 Referent, Jan Gerber, schon vorab verlauten lie\u00df, dass das breite B\u00fcndnis, das zur Verhinderung dieses Neonaziaufmarsches aufrief, einer Volksgemeinschaft von links gleichk\u00e4me und er von einer Teilnahme abrate. Dass gerade die Antifa F aus Frankfurt eine solche Haltung einnahm, erstaunt doch: Schlie\u00dflich geh\u00f6rte Jan Gerber lange Zeit zu jenen antideutschen Intellektuellen, denen auch die Antifa F. gern zuh\u00f6rte. Was sie heute davon trennt bzw. unterscheidet, h\u00e4tte man auch in dieser Veranstaltung diskutieren, nachvollziehbar machen k\u00f6nnen. Stattdessen boykottierte man diese Diskussion \u2013 und das mit dem wohl schlechtesten, weil durchsichtigen Argument.<\/i><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><i>Auf dem Podium waren sehr unterschiedliche Positionen vertreten:<\/i><\/strong><br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\n<strong>Manuel Kellner<i>, Mitglied der Partei DIE LINKE, vertrat eine trotzkistische Position. <\/i>Henning M\u00e4cherle<i> ist Mitglied der VVN und vertrat Positionen, die sich an der der DKP orientierten. <\/i>Jan Gerber<i> ist ein bekannter Antideutscher. Er publiziert in Bahamas und Jungle Word, Zeitschriften, die das antideutsche Spektrum repr\u00e4sentieren. <\/i>Wolf Wetzel<i>, ehemaliges Mitglied der autonomen L.U.P.U.S. \u2013Gruppe.<\/i><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>Die ganze Diskussion wurde gek\u00fcrzt und ist nun in englischer Version verf\u00fcgbar:<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><i>What follows is an edited transcript of an event organized by The Platypus Affiliated Society in Frankfurt on April 30, 2013<\/i>. <i>The discussion addressed the different historical and political implications of anti-fascist politics in order to throw into relief the underlying questions and problems of left-wing politics in the present.<\/i><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><i>Manuel Kellner is a member of <\/i>Die LINKE<i> and the Trotskyist organization <\/i>internationale sozialistische linke(isl)<i>; <\/i><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><i>Jan Gerber is an author and has written articles for the anti-German publications <\/i>Bahamas<i> and <\/i>Jungle World<i>; <\/i><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><i>Henning M\u00e4cherle is a member of the organization <\/i>Vereinigung der Verfolgten des Naziregimes \u2013 Bund der AntifaschistInnen(VVN\/BdA)<i>, the <\/i>German Communist Party (DKP)<i> and the <\/i>Freundschaftsgesellschaft BRD Kuba<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><i>Wolf Wetzel was the member of the <\/i>autonome L.U.P.U.S. Gruppe <i>since 1986, the first autonomous group in Germany, is an author and has written for numerous newspapers including <\/i>Junge Welt and TAZ.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><i>Wolf Wetzel<\/i>: This discussion is itself an historical event. The Left is at present so fractured, that it is impossible, even forbidden, to have discussions with each other.\u00a0 We would normally never see a group like this on a platform together. Yet the problem of the Left is also one of anti-fascism. Many people from the \u201cAntifa\u201d [anti-fascist movement] here in Frankfurt have refused to attend this discussion, since on the evening before an anti-Nazi march, they can only meet to discuss plans of action. They cannot allow themselves to discuss anti-fascism itself because for them to do so on the day before an action would be demobilizing. This is remarkable given that formerly such discussions of political substance were commonplace.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>The other issue is the intense mutual criticism of the different positions represented on this platform. Who can speak with whom? When is it a betrayal? When is it bourgeois, even counterrevolutionary? The assemblage here\u2014representing anti-German, Trotskyist, German Communist Party (DKP), and Autonomist positions\u2014could meet nowhere else in the Federal Republic. Even though I oppose many of the views represented here, these meetings are valuable because they show where these political differences come from and what lessons can be drawn from them.<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>I want to raise the question of the role Nazism plays today and how to understand the Nazis. This is a big question, one that is too often avoided by anti-fascists themselves. But one must ask: How threatening are they? Are they dangerous materially, politically, or ideologically? Also the historical question must be raised: Who in the ruling apparatus and state institutions of the 1930s when the Nazi Party was on the rise had an interest in their program? If the system itself is in crisis and the political elite hit rock bottom, what prevents the Left from coming to power (something much more likely in the 1930s than it is today)? At that time, it was an existential crisis for the political and business class: Would the conflict arising in the capitalist crisis be answered in a rightwing, fascistic way, or in a socialist way? Might not the crisis conclude with the bursting apart and transcendence of the capitalist system itself? &#8230;<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>More of the discussion \u2026 here:<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/platypus1917.org\/2014\/02\/01\/anti-fascism-a-panel-discussion-on-its-problematic-history-and-meaning\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>http:\/\/platypus1917.org\/2014\/02\/01\/anti-fascism-a-panel-discussion-on-its-problematic-history-and-meaning\/<\/strong><\/a><br \/>\n<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dropbox.com\/s\/mt85992ub3n6wzo\/Antifa-discussion-2014.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/www.dropbox.com\/s\/mt85992ub3n6wzo\/Antifa-discussion-2014.pdf<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Views: 220<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Am 30. April 2013 fand am Vorabend eines angek\u00fcndigten neonazistischen Aufmarsches in Frankfurt eine Diskussion \u00fcber die historische und aktuellen Bedeutung des Antifaschismus statt. Im Vorfeld wurde diese Diskussion als demobilisierend bezeichnet, weil ein \u203aantideutscher\u2039<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,30,32,33,34,36],"tags":[194,195,1139,1271,1552,1726,2745],"class_list":["post-4672","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-antifaschismus","category-militante-geschichte","category-nationalismus","category-neonazismus","category-politik","category-rassismus","tag-anti-fascist-movement","tag-anti-fascist-politics","tag-henning-macherle","tag-jan-gerber","tag-manuel-kellner","tag-nazism","tag-wolf-wetzel"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/wolfwetzel.de\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4672","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/wolfwetzel.de\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/wolfwetzel.de\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wolfwetzel.de\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wolfwetzel.de\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4672"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/wolfwetzel.de\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4672\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/wolfwetzel.de\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4672"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wolfwetzel.de\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4672"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/wolfwetzel.de\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4672"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}